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	<title>Comments on: The Artisan Internet and Digital Craftsmanship</title>
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	<description>An Irreverent Look at the Glocalized World</description>
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		<title>By: Ti em Eventos &#187; Fórum da Cultura Brasileira</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2009/10/15/the-artisan-internet-and-digital-craftsmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-251977</link>
		<dc:creator>Ti em Eventos &#187; Fórum da Cultura Brasileira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do David [ aqui ]   Comments [...]</description>
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		<title>By: El Oso &#187; Archive &#187; [Review] The Crafstman</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2009/10/15/the-artisan-internet-and-digital-craftsmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-251408</link>
		<dc:creator>El Oso &#187; Archive &#187; [Review] The Crafstman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] loved this book and its ideas formed the basis of my thinking about digital craftsmanship, the perils of virtuosity, and an upcoming post about social expertise versus antisocial expertise. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] loved this book and its ideas formed the basis of my thinking about digital craftsmanship, the perils of virtuosity, and an upcoming post about social expertise versus antisocial expertise. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El Oso &#187; Archive &#187; Pro-Craftsmanship, Anti-Virtuosity</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Oso &#187; Archive &#187; Pro-Craftsmanship, Anti-Virtuosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] guess I never really explained the backstory of why I&#8217;ve been so obsessed about &#8220;digital craftsmanship&#8221; over the past few months. I had reached a point in my career where I wasn&#8217;t sure if I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] guess I never really explained the backstory of why I&#8217;ve been so obsessed about &#8220;digital craftsmanship&#8221; over the past few months. I had reached a point in my career where I wasn&#8217;t sure if I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: “A rede ainda não representa a população mundial.” Entrevista com David Sasaki &#171; Seminário Internacional do Fórum da Cultura Digital Brasileira</title>
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		<dc:creator>“A rede ainda não representa a população mundial.” Entrevista com David Sasaki &#171; Seminário Internacional do Fórum da Cultura Digital Brasileira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] um post no seu blog, chamado The Artisan Internet and Digital Craftsmanshi, você fala sobre o &#8220;artesanato digital&#8221;. A produção de trabalhos mais bem acabados [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] um post no seu blog, chamado The Artisan Internet and Digital Craftsmanshi, você fala sobre o &#8220;artesanato digital&#8221;. A produção de trabalhos mais bem acabados [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cultura Digital &#187; &#8220;A rede ainda representa a população mundial.&#8221; Entrevista com David Sasaki</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2009/10/15/the-artisan-internet-and-digital-craftsmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-251151</link>
		<dc:creator>Cultura Digital &#187; &#8220;A rede ainda representa a população mundial.&#8221; Entrevista com David Sasaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] um post no seu blog, chamado The Artisan Internet and Digital Craftsmanshi, você fala sobre o &#8220;artesanato digital&#8221;. A produção de trabalhos mais bem acabados [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] um post no seu blog, chamado The Artisan Internet and Digital Craftsmanshi, você fala sobre o &#8220;artesanato digital&#8221;. A produção de trabalhos mais bem acabados [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El Oso &#187; Archive &#187; [Brainfog] Wikipedia Doesn&#8217;t Know No Media Development</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2009/10/15/the-artisan-internet-and-digital-craftsmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-250935</link>
		<dc:creator>El Oso &#187; Archive &#187; [Brainfog] Wikipedia Doesn&#8217;t Know No Media Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reminded me of my homeboy Pierre Bourdieu. Also reminded me of my yet-to-be-published addendum to my presentation on digital craftsmanship. Who knows when and if I&#8217;ll get around to publishing that, but Jose was kind enough to invite [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Reminded me of my homeboy Pierre Bourdieu. Also reminded me of my yet-to-be-published addendum to my presentation on digital craftsmanship. Who knows when and if I&#8217;ll get around to publishing that, but Jose was kind enough to invite [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D, thanks so much for including Epic Fu in your presentation! Seriously humbled. 

Wow, a lot of what you&#039;re saying is what we&#039;ve been struggling with lately. Even here in lala land, we go to meetings and they want something fast and cheap: reality shows. No one gets paid anything, except of course, for the networks. Funny enough, some people we talk to want nothing to do with Epic Fu because they want something they can own for very little. It&#039;s also global, not meant to be contained… so they ask &quot;what other ideas have you got?&quot; It&#039;s the big media monster trying to reinvent itself within new media. The battle with Goliath is pretty fucking epic here. 

But we&#039;re in new media, right? What the studios say doesn&#039;t matter. Let it all fall. Indies can do it on their own. Then we figure it&#039;s in everyone&#039;s best interest if we&#039;re retooling from the inside as well. Naive, perhaps. And these meetings, and panels, and talks, and trying to get the mainstream on the same wavelength as the new media peeps, when everything is floating in the air and all they want to hear about is how to make money on the web… well, sometimes it&#039;s enough to make us want to throw our hands up in the air and open up a little tea shop in the mountains somewhere (a thought we&#039;ve seriously considered). 

What you write pulls at the heartstrings though because ultimately it *is* all about the art… but then to make a living… and then make sure you don&#039;t burn out while you&#039;re crafting. It is a slow and steady race. It&#039;s also recognizing that there&#039;s a balance to it all. That junk and treasure are both needed. Well, maybe less junk. Definitely less junk. 

It&#039;s all worth it, though. We&#039;re in such a special moment in time.

Anyway, your post also reminds me of The Red Violin. Check it out if you haven&#039;t already. One of my very favorite films, inspired by one of Stradivarius&#039;s violins, and all about craftsmanship, the love of the thing, and how it travels. I think you&#039;ll like it. And the soundtrack is amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D, thanks so much for including Epic Fu in your presentation! Seriously humbled. </p>
<p>Wow, a lot of what you&#8217;re saying is what we&#8217;ve been struggling with lately. Even here in lala land, we go to meetings and they want something fast and cheap: reality shows. No one gets paid anything, except of course, for the networks. Funny enough, some people we talk to want nothing to do with Epic Fu because they want something they can own for very little. It&#8217;s also global, not meant to be contained… so they ask &#8220;what other ideas have you got?&#8221; It&#8217;s the big media monster trying to reinvent itself within new media. The battle with Goliath is pretty fucking epic here. </p>
<p>But we&#8217;re in new media, right? What the studios say doesn&#8217;t matter. Let it all fall. Indies can do it on their own. Then we figure it&#8217;s in everyone&#8217;s best interest if we&#8217;re retooling from the inside as well. Naive, perhaps. And these meetings, and panels, and talks, and trying to get the mainstream on the same wavelength as the new media peeps, when everything is floating in the air and all they want to hear about is how to make money on the web… well, sometimes it&#8217;s enough to make us want to throw our hands up in the air and open up a little tea shop in the mountains somewhere (a thought we&#8217;ve seriously considered). </p>
<p>What you write pulls at the heartstrings though because ultimately it *is* all about the art… but then to make a living… and then make sure you don&#8217;t burn out while you&#8217;re crafting. It is a slow and steady race. It&#8217;s also recognizing that there&#8217;s a balance to it all. That junk and treasure are both needed. Well, maybe less junk. Definitely less junk. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all worth it, though. We&#8217;re in such a special moment in time.</p>
<p>Anyway, your post also reminds me of The Red Violin. Check it out if you haven&#8217;t already. One of my very favorite films, inspired by one of Stradivarius&#8217;s violins, and all about craftsmanship, the love of the thing, and how it travels. I think you&#8217;ll like it. And the soundtrack is amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: josemurilo</title>
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		<dc:creator>josemurilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!
Could you come to Brazil to make this presentation?
Abraço,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!<br />
Could you come to Brazil to make this presentation?<br />
Abraço,</p>
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		<title>By: Digital craft and other scaleable peaks &#171; burning bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital craft and other scaleable peaks &#171; burning bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oso&#8217;s pending presentation for a talk in Budapest at Internet Hungary, which you can now find here. Oso&#8217;s concern is the continuation of craft in industrial economies, and whether in the realm [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oso&#8217;s pending presentation for a talk in Budapest at Internet Hungary, which you can now find here. Oso&#8217;s concern is the continuation of craft in industrial economies, and whether in the realm [...]</p>
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