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	<description>An Irreverent Look at the Glocalized World</description>
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		<title>By: Georgia/Caribbean Free Radio</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2007/04/19/a-crowd-attracts-a-crowd/comment-page-1/#comment-223917</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgia/Caribbean Free Radio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 00:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that the &quot;international&quot; interest in the Virginia Tech incident is far stronger in countries and regions which counted nationals/citizens among the victims. As it happens, these were some of the largest and most vocal regions in the world (South Asia, Middle East). US media penetration is also pretty significant in most parts of the world, so the story would also have been carried on CNN etc, creating a level of &quot;interest&quot; of sorts.  

Not that the tiny speck of a country I live in is any example, but as soon as it was confirmed that Cleopatra Borel-Brown, a Trinidadian assistant coach who works at VA Tech, was safe, the story disappeared from the pages of our newspapers, and thoughts turned once again to local and regional concerns. As far as I can remember, the bulk of the blog coverage we&#039;ve seen so far on Global Voices has been primarily from the &quot;affected&quot; regions, plus of course China, because the shooter was initially reported to be Chinese. Nothing so far from Latin America, Africa etc.

Though of course I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that the &#8220;international&#8221; interest in the Virginia Tech incident is far stronger in countries and regions which counted nationals/citizens among the victims. As it happens, these were some of the largest and most vocal regions in the world (South Asia, Middle East). US media penetration is also pretty significant in most parts of the world, so the story would also have been carried on CNN etc, creating a level of &#8220;interest&#8221; of sorts.  </p>
<p>Not that the tiny speck of a country I live in is any example, but as soon as it was confirmed that Cleopatra Borel-Brown, a Trinidadian assistant coach who works at VA Tech, was safe, the story disappeared from the pages of our newspapers, and thoughts turned once again to local and regional concerns. As far as I can remember, the bulk of the blog coverage we&#8217;ve seen so far on Global Voices has been primarily from the &#8220;affected&#8221; regions, plus of course China, because the shooter was initially reported to be Chinese. Nothing so far from Latin America, Africa etc.</p>
<p>Though of course I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: univ journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>univ journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In many ways your view sounds like the way a fad starts. 

Someone wears funny shoes, because it is hard to gather information on all shoes someone else follows. Soon the shoes are everywhere and no longer funny. Once everyone has those shoes the crowd knows enough about them and some other fad slides in.

Is news just a fad at hyper speed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In many ways your view sounds like the way a fad starts. </p>
<p>Someone wears funny shoes, because it is hard to gather information on all shoes someone else follows. Soon the shoes are everywhere and no longer funny. Once everyone has those shoes the crowd knows enough about them and some other fad slides in.</p>
<p>Is news just a fad at hyper speed?</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I apologize in advance if this sounds cynical or cold-hearted, but we need stories like the Don Imus controversy and even the VT school shooting because they give us something to talk about.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Keen observation. I still think the old, if-it-bleeds-it-leads maxim works, but interesting that these days there&#039;s plenty of bloodshed around the world to report... yet we talk about the stuff that&#039;s easy for the hens on The View and The Today Show to opine about.

Mainstream media&#039;s still setting the tone and agenda, to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I apologize in advance if this sounds cynical or cold-hearted, but we need stories like the Don Imus controversy and even the VT school shooting because they give us something to talk about.</p></blockquote>
<p>Keen observation. I still think the old, if-it-bleeds-it-leads maxim works, but interesting that these days there&#8217;s plenty of bloodshed around the world to report&#8230; yet we talk about the stuff that&#8217;s easy for the hens on The View and The Today Show to opine about.</p>
<p>Mainstream media&#8217;s still setting the tone and agenda, to be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think U.S. American journalists are only allowed to say &quot;tragedy&quot; when it involves U.S. Americans ;) (Or possibly if it involves a lot of babies in another country, particularly if they look like they have Western European heritage)

I think the reason one song/artist/film becomes &quot;better&quot; than others is 90% a matter of the advertising budget (aren&#039;t our tastes defined by successes from the past?). The purpose (business model) of mass media is to convey advertisers&#039; messages. And now that the news media at large (few exceptions like PBS/NPR/GV) are commercial ventures -- the LA Times for example -- it&#039;s all about ratings affecting advertising dollars and the public eating it up as if the news broadcast was organized by God.

We&#039;re told what to like by the corporate dollar. Which is what is so exciting about this online free-for-all. But again, the channels with the big budgets advertise websites that end up getting all the visits. &#039;Round and &#039;round it goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think U.S. American journalists are only allowed to say &#8220;tragedy&#8221; when it involves U.S. Americans <img src='http://el-oso.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  (Or possibly if it involves a lot of babies in another country, particularly if they look like they have Western European heritage)</p>
<p>I think the reason one song/artist/film becomes &#8220;better&#8221; than others is 90% a matter of the advertising budget (aren&#8217;t our tastes defined by successes from the past?). The purpose (business model) of mass media is to convey advertisers&#8217; messages. And now that the news media at large (few exceptions like PBS/NPR/GV) are commercial ventures &#8212; the LA Times for example &#8212; it&#8217;s all about ratings affecting advertising dollars and the public eating it up as if the news broadcast was organized by God.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re told what to like by the corporate dollar. Which is what is so exciting about this online free-for-all. But again, the channels with the big budgets advertise websites that end up getting all the visits. &#8216;Round and &#8217;round it goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cindylu</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindylu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You call it an annoying habit, but it&#039;s one of the reasons I like you. Perspective is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call it an annoying habit, but it&#8217;s one of the reasons I like you. Perspective is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Abogado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abogado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the difference is pretty obvious: &quot;That could have been me/my son/daughter&quot;. I&#039;m not going to die in a bombing in Baghdad unless my travel plans for the near future change pretty quick. I don&#039;t think you even have to resort to the cynical calculations of the respective values of American lives and foreign lives - though people undoubtedly make those calculations. It&#039;s simple - that crazy bastard could have shot &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt;; this could happen &lt;i&gt;anywhere&lt;/i&gt; at &lt;i&gt;anytime&lt;/i&gt;. It&#039;s not a comparison of bodies that makes a story a story or we&#039;d still be talking about the horrificness of the tsunami. But there&#039;s a huge difference between random destruction by nature and the random destructive capacity of humanity. Also, foreign media love to point out American flaws. 

Your objectively wrong about Borat, btw. That shit is hilarious. Now return my calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the difference is pretty obvious: &#8220;That could have been me/my son/daughter&#8221;. I&#8217;m not going to die in a bombing in Baghdad unless my travel plans for the near future change pretty quick. I don&#8217;t think you even have to resort to the cynical calculations of the respective values of American lives and foreign lives &#8211; though people undoubtedly make those calculations. It&#8217;s simple &#8211; that crazy bastard could have shot <i>me</i>; this could happen <i>anywhere</i> at <i>anytime</i>. It&#8217;s not a comparison of bodies that makes a story a story or we&#8217;d still be talking about the horrificness of the tsunami. But there&#8217;s a huge difference between random destruction by nature and the random destructive capacity of humanity. Also, foreign media love to point out American flaws. </p>
<p>Your objectively wrong about Borat, btw. That shit is hilarious. Now return my calls.</p>
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		<title>By: Lo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only followed this story in print. 

I know the news anchors are not equipped with the appropriate skill set to discuss the impact of the images they are airing. I would prefer to see the video discussed by experts in the field of psychology or psychiatry.

Assembling an expert panel to discuss, the implications of the video and the effect it could have on the Asian community in the U.S. (because we are notorious in terms of ignorant backlash), and the public viewing it would be responsible journalism. 

If as Tim Goodman wrote in the San Francisco Chronicle on 4/19 NBC has ushered in a new era of multimedia in news reporting: I hope that the new era will include discussion by the experts, preferably an assembled panel of diverse experts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only followed this story in print. </p>
<p>I know the news anchors are not equipped with the appropriate skill set to discuss the impact of the images they are airing. I would prefer to see the video discussed by experts in the field of psychology or psychiatry.</p>
<p>Assembling an expert panel to discuss, the implications of the video and the effect it could have on the Asian community in the U.S. (because we are notorious in terms of ignorant backlash), and the public viewing it would be responsible journalism. </p>
<p>If as Tim Goodman wrote in the San Francisco Chronicle on 4/19 NBC has ushered in a new era of multimedia in news reporting: I hope that the new era will include discussion by the experts, preferably an assembled panel of diverse experts.</p>
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		<title>By: xoloitzquintle</title>
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		<dc:creator>xoloitzquintle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes this event different is that it happened in a place where it was &quot;unexpected&quot; (I use the quotes because there seems to be a cycle of this happening in the US).  When there are 90 murders in Newark in the first two months of this year it isn&#039;t national news because we expect there to be murders there.  Moreover, these types of events remind us of our vulnerability (which is what the media cashes in on - we want information to try to reassure ourselves).

Aside: One of the first media comments I heard was that they didn&#039;t believe that thses actions were &quot;terrorist related&quot;.  Now who hears about someone going into an American institution shooting people and then immediately thinks, &quot;I wonder if it was terrorists?&quot;  That would be like hearing of an airplane bombing and thinking, &quot;I wonder if that was an alienated and mentally ill student?&quot;  The comment, however, makes us realize that a terrorist could in fact do this.  

As to the global reach of the story, it illustrates the fallibility of the US.  These things keep happening and people wonder why.

I am not sure whether we &quot;need&quot; these stories because they give us soemthing to talk about.  I believe they emerge because they reveal the imperfections (or the rotting and disintegrating core) of our society.  But rather than using them as an opportunity to address the broader social issues, we get lost in the minutiae of the case itself to the point where we get sick of it and move on all together without having done anything at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes this event different is that it happened in a place where it was &#8220;unexpected&#8221; (I use the quotes because there seems to be a cycle of this happening in the US).  When there are 90 murders in Newark in the first two months of this year it isn&#8217;t national news because we expect there to be murders there.  Moreover, these types of events remind us of our vulnerability (which is what the media cashes in on &#8211; we want information to try to reassure ourselves).</p>
<p>Aside: One of the first media comments I heard was that they didn&#8217;t believe that thses actions were &#8220;terrorist related&#8221;.  Now who hears about someone going into an American institution shooting people and then immediately thinks, &#8220;I wonder if it was terrorists?&#8221;  That would be like hearing of an airplane bombing and thinking, &#8220;I wonder if that was an alienated and mentally ill student?&#8221;  The comment, however, makes us realize that a terrorist could in fact do this.  </p>
<p>As to the global reach of the story, it illustrates the fallibility of the US.  These things keep happening and people wonder why.</p>
<p>I am not sure whether we &#8220;need&#8221; these stories because they give us soemthing to talk about.  I believe they emerge because they reveal the imperfections (or the rotting and disintegrating core) of our society.  But rather than using them as an opportunity to address the broader social issues, we get lost in the minutiae of the case itself to the point where we get sick of it and move on all together without having done anything at all.</p>
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		<title>By: patri</title>
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		<dc:creator>patri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a fine roundabout way of saying that in the awake of tragedy, the world is pushed together. 

One thing that&#039;s missing is the burning questions about Cho Seung-Hui. No one ever wonders what the intentions are of a suicide bomber. This misfit is a product of America, and that&#039;s why (IMHO) it&#039;s getting probed apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a fine roundabout way of saying that in the awake of tragedy, the world is pushed together. </p>
<p>One thing that&#8217;s missing is the burning questions about Cho Seung-Hui. No one ever wonders what the intentions are of a suicide bomber. This misfit is a product of America, and that&#8217;s why (IMHO) it&#8217;s getting probed apart.</p>
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