Comments on: Dee Jecko Museek

By: seyd

seyd — Sat, 22 Apr 2006 07:33:29 +0000

Well, I must thank Cad for giving me the heads up about this one. Today we met for the first time and as always is the case with bloggers we were talking about the blogs we read as if you all were people we know from real life, and don’t ask me how but the “salty semen” issue came up… And not that I don’t read your blog, but if the post’s title doesn’t have my name in bold letters I tend to skip it… But seriously, such sympathy towards homophobia scares me. I think we need to question your readership, I really thought they were more progressive than that. They should be adding your email address to lists of gay spam, not saying how much they relate to your experience… I still like you though, and will try my best to talk more about my sexual likes and dislikes in order to ease you into my “lifestyle”.

By: melissa_cookingdiva

melissa_cookingdiva — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:21:21 +0000

“The question is how much do you want to be you and force others to accept that person or how much do you want to pretend your someone else to please others.”

I see your point, AND I agree with the thought of being ourselves, yes. But, I do not think that we have to force people to like us, why? We have to learn to be tolerant, understand that we are not all the same. We come from different places, we were raised under very different dogmas, members of different cultures.

I know many people do not like me, and I do not like everyone. That’s a fact, BUT as an extreme example…if I “have to” I will manage to learn to stay in the same room with that person.

The only time I sense I could react in a negative way against homosexuals is if the guy is after my man! Oh yes, that will be trouble for sure

By: patri

patri — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:05:40 +0000

I like where this conversation has lead. “How much do you want to be you?” There is a heavy amount of “YOU” in expression, personal or shared. I think I lost a bit of my soul when I stopped writing my blog– letting others hear my voice, my side of the story, sharing something different…

But not expressing myself doesn’t make me feel like I’m pretending to be someone I’m not. If anything, it makes me feel safe, and secure that I reserve the right to be who I am.

I don’t care who knows it. I am an open David Sedaris devotee. In fact, I’m going to see him on Monday.

By: Jennifer Woodard Maderazo

Jennifer Woodard Maderazo — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:09:20 +0000

I wish you’d start censoring your language around me. I’m starting to feel dirty by association.

By: oso

oso — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:08:57 +0000

No way. People change. Especially when they want to.

We’re all guilty of self-censoring. I certainly use different language around my grandparents than I do with my friends. But I used to be much more self-censoring, always afraid that I would upset or offend someone. Now I’m not nearly as much.

The question is how much do you want to be you and force others to accept that person or how much do you want to pretend your someone else to please others.

I hope it’s much more the former and much less the latter.

By: myke

myke — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:58:39 +0000

Well, isn’t that going to be the case? If you are nastied out by such things and HP is and whoever is … won’t any gay guy (even a more moderate one such as myself especially) automatically self censor?? I value you as a friend for sure but having read this post, I know now that I’d take the self censoring route around you.

By: oso

oso — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:55:39 +0000

Thank you Myke – someone gets my point! See, you shouldn’t have to censor yourself like that.

So what I’m basically asking … the whole point of this entire post … is that you don’t. Because if you do, then nothing will ever change.

By: myke

myke — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:55:29 +0000

… then no hetero will ever be able to stand hearing anything about gay sex in any conversation. It’s one thing to know that I WOULDN’T discuss something … it’s much more disturbing knowing that I really CAN’T.

btw .. i typoed up above .. there at the end … I meant .. “knowing how much a discussion of homo sex might disgust either of you”

By: myke

myke — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:51:20 +0000

Here’s where I see a problem for me specifically. Guys talk about sex. Homo. Hetero. Bi. It doesn’t matter. Guys discuss sex. If I’m in a conversation with you or HP & sex comes up, I would now tend to think that I should absolutely self censor for risk of offending either of you. Even doing so wouldn’t likely stop the conversation whether or not I wanted to hear about hetero sex. Personally, I donh ‘t prefer to discuss my sex life to such a detail regardless. However, from now forward … knowing how much discussion of homo sex might discuss either of you, I know that I’ll have to self censor when I’m around either of you. And this, my friend, is .. I hate to admit .. dissapointing in the sense that if an individual as generally liberal as yourself still gets that disgusted …

By: logtar

logtar — Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:23:49 +0000

Came up with what I think is a pretty clever meme… come out and play! maybe all 3 of you can do it and then we can guess who is who… that would be interesting.