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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Throughout college I spent so much time concentrating on political theory buzzwords and identities (liberal, conservative, socialist, &lt;strong&gt;libertarian&lt;/strong&gt;, neoliberalist, communist, free-marketeer, internationalist, protectionist, anarchist, transnationalist) and now I’ve realized I couldn’t care less about these words. They are meaningless to me unless applied to very specific situations which they almost never are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Was this a recent revelation? In August you implied that your readers should take my travelogue in Cuba with a grain of salt since they were &quot;reading the accounts of a super-&lt;strong&gt;libertarian&lt;/strong&gt; in a super-socialist country…&quot;

Emphasis added. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Throughout college I spent so much time concentrating on political theory buzzwords and identities (liberal, conservative, socialist, <strong>libertarian</strong>, neoliberalist, communist, free-marketeer, internationalist, protectionist, anarchist, transnationalist) and now I’ve realized I couldn’t care less about these words. They are meaningless to me unless applied to very specific situations which they almost never are.</p></blockquote>
<p>Was this a recent revelation? In August you implied that your readers should take my travelogue in Cuba with a grain of salt since they were &#8220;reading the accounts of a super-<strong>libertarian</strong> in a super-socialist country…&#8221;</p>
<p>Emphasis added. <img src='http://el-oso.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn Barber's Corner</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Shawn Barber's Corner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CARR, Etc.&lt;/strong&gt;

	I&#8217;m so bad. I didn&#8217;t blog about the Computer-Assisted Research and Reporting (CARR) workshop I went to last week. I&#8217;m getting so lazy with my blogging.
	The workshop was lasted only two days, but it was very useful. Mark Tapscott, bl...</description>
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<p>	I&#8217;m so bad. I didn&#8217;t blog about the Computer-Assisted Research and Reporting (CARR) workshop I went to last week. I&#8217;m getting so lazy with my blogging.<br />
	The workshop was lasted only two days, but it was very useful. Mark Tapscott, bl&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gustavo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;They are meaningless to me unless applied to very specific situations which they almost never are. Instead, we take meaning away from complex, individual situations by trying to force them through a given political prism.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Very well said. I am starting to fall in that direction of thought. I think it&#039;s your fault, and HP.

As far as the protestors are concerned ...what ever happened to creativity? I need some more WTO Seattle like protests!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;They are meaningless to me unless applied to very specific situations which they almost never are. Instead, we take meaning away from complex, individual situations by trying to force them through a given political prism.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Very well said. I am starting to fall in that direction of thought. I think it&#8217;s your fault, and HP.</p>
<p>As far as the protestors are concerned &#8230;what ever happened to creativity? I need some more WTO Seattle like protests!</p>
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		<title>By: EMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid of stats. But Cindylu, having a panel that discusses latino weblogs and community that centers upon education, social, political, and religious implications as well as some damn good creative writing, doesn&#039;t sound too farfetched to me. I know a guy (the dude that started Consumating) that got a panel together on funny weblogs. C&#039;mon this has more significance it might work. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid of stats. But Cindylu, having a panel that discusses latino weblogs and community that centers upon education, social, political, and religious implications as well as some damn good creative writing, doesn&#8217;t sound too farfetched to me. I know a guy (the dude that started Consumating) that got a panel together on funny weblogs. C&#8217;mon this has more significance it might work. <img src='http://el-oso.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, glad that you liked la comida boliviana.  next time, you must try taquiña beer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, glad that you liked la comida boliviana.  next time, you must try taquiña beer.</p>
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		<title>By: cindylu</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindylu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EMC,
Hell yeah. Shit! I just remembered that my financial situation for this upcoming academic year might really suck. I need a sugar daddy.

Oso,
The stats nerd in me would have loved to have gone to a workshop on all the different statistics you can get through government websites. At work we merge data from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IPEDS&lt;/a&gt; (Integrated Postsecondary Education Data Systems&lt;/a&gt; in with the survey data we collect. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://nces.ed.gov/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;National Center for Education Statistics&lt;/a&gt; has tons of stuff too and I visit it frequently. We use SPSS at work and we have files with hundreds of thousands of cases. I&#039;ve also used STATA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EMC,<br />
Hell yeah. Shit! I just remembered that my financial situation for this upcoming academic year might really suck. I need a sugar daddy.</p>
<p>Oso,<br />
The stats nerd in me would have loved to have gone to a workshop on all the different statistics you can get through government websites. At work we merge data from the <a href="http://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/" rel="nofollow">IPEDS</a> (Integrated Postsecondary Education Data Systems in with the survey data we collect. The <a href="http://nces.ed.gov/" rel="nofollow">National Center for Education Statistics</a> has tons of stuff too and I visit it frequently. We use SPSS at work and we have files with hundreds of thousands of cases. I&#8217;ve also used STATA.</p>
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		<title>By: EMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We gotta start a panel at SXSW Interactive...from my sources, it isn&#039;t that difficult. A Blogotitlan community panel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We gotta start a panel at SXSW Interactive&#8230;from my sources, it isn&#8217;t that difficult. A Blogotitlan community panel?</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Texican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Texican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still wondering how you make money to eat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still wondering how you make money to eat?</p>
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		<title>By: HispanicPundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>HispanicPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oso,

&lt;i&gt;HP, I feel terrible, I made fun of you without providing the link I had meant to put in there. &lt;/i&gt;

You must have meant a different link than, since in that link I only contrasts &lt;em&gt;liberals with liberals&lt;/em&gt;. 

In fact, if you look at the link more closely, you will see that I didn&#039;t use the word conservative once.

&lt;i&gt;I read the Hitchens article. There’s a great example of someone who has turned into a knee-jerk political hack. He interprets any given act by who is friends with who, trying to discount actual arguments by throwing in politicized keywords&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t see how you could say this, Hitchens &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; separate those who were and those who were not associated with these lefties groups. He writes, &lt;i&gt;&quot;If the &quot;United for Peace and Justice&quot; lot want to sink their differences with such riffraff and mount a joint demonstration, then they invite some principled political criticism on their own account. And those who just tag along … well, they just tag along&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;That sounds at least as retarded as a video clip from the protest concert that I’ll post later on.&lt;/i&gt;

Again, I am confused here. Hitchens didn&#039;t just make &lt;em&gt;unsupported&lt;/em&gt; accusations against George Galloway and Michael Moore, he didn&#039;t just base it on their friends, he based it on what &lt;em&gt;they actually said&lt;/em&gt;. He writes, &quot;...are obnoxious enough to &lt;em&gt;come right out and say&lt;/em&gt; that they support the Baathist-jihadist alliance&quot;.  He even linked to the articles that supported such claims, &lt;a href=&quot;http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://slate.msn.com/id/2126121/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

How is that retarded? 

For the record, I am no Christopher Hitchens fan, he is far too leftie for my taste. All I am doing here is defending, what seems to me, a straw man attack on his article, but than again, that is the difference between liberals and conservatives. LOL I kid... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oso,</p>
<p><i>HP, I feel terrible, I made fun of you without providing the link I had meant to put in there. </i></p>
<p>You must have meant a different link than, since in that link I only contrasts <em>liberals with liberals</em>. </p>
<p>In fact, if you look at the link more closely, you will see that I didn&#8217;t use the word conservative once.</p>
<p><i>I read the Hitchens article. There’s a great example of someone who has turned into a knee-jerk political hack. He interprets any given act by who is friends with who, trying to discount actual arguments by throwing in politicized keywords</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how you could say this, Hitchens <em>did</em> separate those who were and those who were not associated with these lefties groups. He writes, <i>&#8220;If the &#8220;United for Peace and Justice&#8221; lot want to sink their differences with such riffraff and mount a joint demonstration, then they invite some principled political criticism on their own account. And those who just tag along … well, they just tag along&#8221;</i>.</p>
<p><i>That sounds at least as retarded as a video clip from the protest concert that I’ll post later on.</i></p>
<p>Again, I am confused here. Hitchens didn&#8217;t just make <em>unsupported</em> accusations against George Galloway and Michael Moore, he didn&#8217;t just base it on their friends, he based it on what <em>they actually said</em>. He writes, &#8220;&#8230;are obnoxious enough to <em>come right out and say</em> that they support the Baathist-jihadist alliance&#8221;.  He even linked to the articles that supported such claims, <a href="http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://slate.msn.com/id/2126121/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>How is that retarded? </p>
<p>For the record, I am no Christopher Hitchens fan, he is far too leftie for my taste. All I am doing here is defending, what seems to me, a straw man attack on his article, but than again, that is the difference between liberals and conservatives. LOL I kid&#8230; <img src='http://el-oso.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: oso</title>
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		<dc:creator>oso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP, I feel terrible, I made fun of you without providing the link I had meant to put in there. It shoulda read:

&lt;blockquote&gt;HP continues to impress me to this day how &lt;a href=&quot;http://carnepicada.blogspot.com/2005/09/as-most-of-you-know-i-live-in-detroit.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he can take any given topic&lt;/a&gt; and always reply, &quot;this reminds me of how liberals look at this sort of thing compared to conservatives.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I read the Hitchens article. There&#039;s a great example of someone who has turned into a knee-jerk political hack. He interprets any given act by who is friends with who, trying to discount actual arguments by throwing in politicized keywords:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Some of the leading figures in this &quot;movement,&quot; such as George Galloway and Michael Moore, are obnoxious enough to come right out and say that they support the Baathist-jihadist alliance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That sounds at least as retarded as a video clip from the protest concert that I&#039;ll post later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP, I feel terrible, I made fun of you without providing the link I had meant to put in there. It shoulda read:</p>
<blockquote><p>HP continues to impress me to this day how <a href="http://carnepicada.blogspot.com/2005/09/as-most-of-you-know-i-live-in-detroit.html" rel="nofollow">he can take any given topic</a> and always reply, &#8220;this reminds me of how liberals look at this sort of thing compared to conservatives.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I read the Hitchens article. There&#8217;s a great example of someone who has turned into a knee-jerk political hack. He interprets any given act by who is friends with who, trying to discount actual arguments by throwing in politicized keywords:</p>
<blockquote><p>Some of the leading figures in this &#8220;movement,&#8221; such as George Galloway and Michael Moore, are obnoxious enough to come right out and say that they support the Baathist-jihadist alliance.</p></blockquote>
<p>That sounds at least as retarded as a video clip from the protest concert that I&#8217;ll post later on.</p>
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