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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m an American Aquarium Drinker</title>
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	<description>An Irreverent Look at the Glocalized World</description>
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		<title>By: elenamary</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48187</link>
		<dc:creator>elenamary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gustavito, it absolutly has to do with this post.  A great example of how what we do in one place of the world effects other places around the globe.

Oso,  Can I tell Gustavito that in response to his comment I wanted to say somthing about &quot;having babies&quot; or have I reached my monthly limit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gustavito, it absolutly has to do with this post.  A great example of how what we do in one place of the world effects other places around the globe.</p>
<p>Oso,  Can I tell Gustavito that in response to his comment I wanted to say somthing about &#8220;having babies&#8221; or have I reached my monthly limit?</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Rojo</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48184</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustavo Rojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone ever heard of the Salton Sea situated between Mexicali and Coachella? That place is a great example of how pollution knows no borders. What this has to do with this post I have no idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever heard of the Salton Sea situated between Mexicali and Coachella? That place is a great example of how pollution knows no borders. What this has to do with this post I have no idea.</p>
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		<title>By: oso</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48146</link>
		<dc:creator>oso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 06:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good jebus. Glad to see you have so much free time now that finals are over.

I didn&#039;t read all of that, so I&#039;m not really sure what you said, but in case you didn&#039;t mention it, 27 republican representatives voted against CAFTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good jebus. Glad to see you have so much free time now that finals are over.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t read all of that, so I&#8217;m not really sure what you said, but in case you didn&#8217;t mention it, 27 republican representatives voted against CAFTA.</p>
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		<title>By: oso</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48124</link>
		<dc:creator>oso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gonna copy part of a comment here that I just left on Elenamary&#039;s blog:

&lt;blockquote&gt;One of the things I said in my post that didn&#039;t seem to get much attention is, I only support free trade if it comes with open borders. The best workers should be able to migrate freely to the best work.

It seems to be working well in the EU, but the US would never ever agree to it, which is why we should push for some economic regulation to balance our immigration policies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna copy part of a comment here that I just left on Elenamary&#8217;s blog:</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the things I said in my post that didn&#8217;t seem to get much attention is, I only support free trade if it comes with open borders. The best workers should be able to migrate freely to the best work.</p>
<p>It seems to be working well in the EU, but the US would never ever agree to it, which is why we should push for some economic regulation to balance our immigration policies.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Elenamary - de aquí y de allá &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RÍO GRANDE REGION</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48122</link>
		<dc:creator>Elenamary - de aquí y de allá &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RÍO GRANDE REGION</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] El Oso wrote about how he is a supporter of free trade. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] El Oso wrote about how he is a supporter of free trade. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: elenamary</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48121</link>
		<dc:creator>elenamary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pretty sure I am going to regret doing this.  As I most often just try to ignore ignorant wankers, however, as I am committed to learning and teaching about the impacts of econmic policy, I want to make it clear that asking &quot;at what &lt;em&gt;real cost&lt;/em&gt;?&quot; does not mean a romantisation or holding back of a people.

And rather than use up Oso&#039;s blog as my own platform go to my blog to understand why I disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pretty sure I am going to regret doing this.  As I most often just try to ignore ignorant wankers, however, as I am committed to learning and teaching about the impacts of econmic policy, I want to make it clear that asking &#8220;at what <em>real cost</em>?&#8221; does not mean a romantisation or holding back of a people.</p>
<p>And rather than use up Oso&#8217;s blog as my own platform go to my blog to understand why I disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: HispanicPundit</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48116</link>
		<dc:creator>HispanicPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oso,

Yeah, I agree. Actually, Democrats used to be for trade, as recently as the Clinton years. It&#039;s pretty sad, IMHO, the direction they have taken over the years.

As far as the NY Times goes, well, it would look &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; bad on their part if they were not for free-trade. Within economics circles, as you already know, free-trade is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; a partisan issue, both, liberals and conservatives, are supporters of free-trade (It is one of the few things you can get all economists to agree on). So if the NY Times was against free-trade, they would lose &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; credibility, since they would essentially be at odds with the &lt;i&gt;whole economic community&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oso,</p>
<p>Yeah, I agree. Actually, Democrats used to be for trade, as recently as the Clinton years. It&#8217;s pretty sad, IMHO, the direction they have taken over the years.</p>
<p>As far as the NY Times goes, well, it would look <i>very</i> bad on their part if they were not for free-trade. Within economics circles, as you already know, free-trade is <i>not</i> a partisan issue, both, liberals and conservatives, are supporters of free-trade (It is one of the few things you can get all economists to agree on). So if the NY Times was against free-trade, they would lose <i>all</i> credibility, since they would essentially be at odds with the <i>whole economic community</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: HispanicPundit</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48093</link>
		<dc:creator>HispanicPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when you get all Republican like this!!! There is hope for you yet, my bleeding heart friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when you get all Republican like this!!! There is hope for you yet, my bleeding heart friend.</p>
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		<title>By: elenamary</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48092</link>
		<dc:creator>elenamary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oso,

I love you.  You are wrong.

I don&#039;t know if you know it but I&#039;ve got a BA in economics which means I&#039;ve got an extra piece of paper with which to wipe my ass.
Anyway, I agree that protectionism and subsidizing of some goods when trying to create free trade goes against how free trade SHOULD function, and how it would be great if people didn&#039;t try to protect things like sugar, beets, steel, bras.  However, economists tend to do a crappy job at looking at not just fiscial costs but social costs.  To me this is where the real problem lies.  What are the social costs of having McDonalds in Mexico?  What are the social costs of having maquiladroas along the border?  What are the social costs of moving away from agricultual based society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oso,</p>
<p>I love you.  You are wrong.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you know it but I&#8217;ve got a BA in economics which means I&#8217;ve got an extra piece of paper with which to wipe my ass.<br />
Anyway, I agree that protectionism and subsidizing of some goods when trying to create free trade goes against how free trade SHOULD function, and how it would be great if people didn&#8217;t try to protect things like sugar, beets, steel, bras.  However, economists tend to do a crappy job at looking at not just fiscial costs but social costs.  To me this is where the real problem lies.  What are the social costs of having McDonalds in Mexico?  What are the social costs of having maquiladroas along the border?  What are the social costs of moving away from agricultual based society?</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbo</title>
		<link>http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2005/07/30/im-an-american-aquarium-drinkier/comment-page-1/#comment-48090</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  I will have to read this again when I&#039;m not so hungover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  I will have to read this again when I&#8217;m not so hungover.</p>
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